Giving this post the same title as I did with Lady Gaga before, should make you think that he too, is not a goth. But instead I think he is.
Many have critized him for his look and his music, calling him the biggest goth poser out there! But..in the moment you call him "goth poser"..aren't you stating that there's something in him that made you think he is goth? Wheter it's the clothing, the make-up, the attitude and especially the music..you did think you were listening to goth music and that he is goth!! You had the doubt in your mind , and I think this is already enough to make him be one. But still, this is MY opinion.
So..who is Marilyn Manson?
Marilyn Manson (born Brian Hugh Warner on January 5, 1969) is an American musician, artist and former music journalist known for his controversial stage persona and image as the lead singer of the eponymous band, Marilyn Manson. His stage name was formed from juxtaposing the names of two 1960s American cultural icons, namely actress Marilyn Monroe and convicted multiple murder mastermind Charles Manson as a critical and, simultaneously, laudatory appraisal of America and its peculiar culture. He has a long legacy of being depicted in the media as a detrimental influence on young people.
Manson formed Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids in Florida in 1989 (the name was shortened to Marilyn Manson in 1992). While with The Spooky Kids, he was involved with Jeordie White (also known as Twiggy Ramirez) and Stephen Gregory Bier Jr. (also known as Madonna Wayne Gacy) in two side-projects: Satan on Fire, a faux-Christian metal ensemble where he played bass guitar, and drums in Mrs. Scabtree, a collaborative band formed with White and then girlfriend Jessicka (vocalist with the band Jack Off Jill) as a way to combat contractual agreements that prohibited Marilyn Manson from playing in certain clubs. In the summer of 1993, the band drew the attention of Trent Reznor. Reznor produced their 1994 debut album, Portrait of an American Family and released it on his Nothing Records label. The band began to develop a cult following, which grew larger with the release of Smells Like Children in 1995. That EP yielded the band's first big MTV hit with "Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)," a cover of the 1983 Eurythmics hit. Antichrist Superstar (co-produced by Trent Reznor) was an even greater success.
(goth band Jack Off Jill)
In the US alone, three of the band's albums have been awarded platinum certification, three more gold, and the band has had five releases debut in the top ten, including two number-one albums. Manson first worked as a producer with the band Jack Off Jill. He helped name the band and produce most of the band's early recordings, and also played guitar on the song "My Cat".
He had been working on his directorial debut, Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll, since 2004, with Manson also set to portray the role of Lewis Carroll, author of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Initially announced as a web-only release, it was later decided to give the estimated $4.2 million budget film a conventional cinema release, with a slated release date of mid-2007. The film was to have an original music soundtrack with previously unreleased songs. Production of the film had been postponed indefinitely until after the Eat Me, Drink Me tour.
"infos taken from wikipedia"
Now, someone who is inspired by music such as Nine Inch Nails, Bauhaus, The Cure, Alice Cooper, Black Sabbath, David Bowie and that's is also a poet, a painter and a burlesque lover and is making a movie about the author of Alice in Wonderland.. doesn't make you relate him to goth culture too? :P
We all know that goth music isn't only one genre. It evolved and got influenced by other genres such as metal and hard rock. So stop saying he isn't goth because his music doesn't sound like Bauhaus or The Banshees. Marilyn Manson is a genre per se.
You might be angry at him because it's mainly because of him if now people think we are all satanic crazy freaky creepy (and a lot of other bad terms) people! He made the goth look famous worldwide but unfortunately he didn't think about the consequence..!
Though he never said he was a goth. But did Siouxsie or Robert Smith say so about themselves?? No. It was us who labeled them goth. They barely know what goth is..they just are. xD Same goes for MM. We are to decide wheter he is to be considered goth or not.
My opinion is..YES, he can be considered goth. And his music is just fantastic. ^__^
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